Right, well that's the question. If she's the hero of the story (which I think she is), then does she have heroic manpain? I think she does to some extent but it is not necessarily exhibited the way some of the actual male characters exhibit it. I don't think there's anything bad/good about it. (That's not my argument anyway; TWW's definitely arguing against manpain though.) I was just wondering if her story was being told the same way a male hero's story would be told.
Would you argue that Zak was fridged? Hee. I don't know if that counts because he wasn't technically anything more than backstory. So we didn't have an attachment to him, plus he fueled other people's pain as well, arguably, just as much.
I don't think anyone is arguing that Lee is more developed than Kara. It's actually the opposite. He is less developed, thus a framing device for Kara's storyline in many ways. Sort of like the narrator in the Great Gatsby is for Daisy. I think there are several episodes and smaller scenes where canon did try to sort of situate us in Lee's POV w/r/t Kara's narrative: YCGHA, Kobol's Last Gleaming (the punching scene), Scar (the end mostly), The Captain's Hand (especially!), and most definitely He That Believeth, the wall scene in Islanded, and Daybreak with its flashbacks and Lee's "You will not be forgotten." Lee is the one left standing to carry on Kara's story. Some days I like that, some days I don't.
I think after Kara's death, she kind of stopped telling her own story because they didn't know what her story was. Honestly she didn't have much agency. Even her "finding Earth" was sort of down to her remembering a random childhood song then weirdly deciding to turn it into coordinates. And actually the first time she found Earth it wasn't because of anything Kara did, but because of the shiny vehicle she happened to come back in. (Gah, I am reminded that the execution was really so awful, the more I try to discuss it.)
So I don't think Kara was fridged to serve Lee's story like the way Dualla was...but in a way she was fridged to serve the whole fleet's story? She stopped being a person who could affect change really through anything except coincidence. I guess it's that angel-ghost-pigeon conundrum. Sigh.
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Would you argue that Zak was fridged? Hee. I don't know if that counts because he wasn't technically anything more than backstory. So we didn't have an attachment to him, plus he fueled other people's pain as well, arguably, just as much.
I don't think anyone is arguing that Lee is more developed than Kara. It's actually the opposite. He is less developed, thus a framing device for Kara's storyline in many ways. Sort of like the narrator in the Great Gatsby is for Daisy. I think there are several episodes and smaller scenes where canon did try to sort of situate us in Lee's POV w/r/t Kara's narrative: YCGHA, Kobol's Last Gleaming (the punching scene), Scar (the end mostly), The Captain's Hand (especially!), and most definitely He That Believeth, the wall scene in Islanded, and Daybreak with its flashbacks and Lee's "You will not be forgotten." Lee is the one left standing to carry on Kara's story. Some days I like that, some days I don't.
I think after Kara's death, she kind of stopped telling her own story because they didn't know what her story was. Honestly she didn't have much agency. Even her "finding Earth" was sort of down to her remembering a random childhood song then weirdly deciding to turn it into coordinates. And actually the first time she found Earth it wasn't because of anything Kara did, but because of the shiny vehicle she happened to come back in. (Gah, I am reminded that the execution was really so awful, the more I try to discuss it.)
So I don't think Kara was fridged to serve Lee's story like the way Dualla was...but in a way she was fridged to serve the whole fleet's story? She stopped being a person who could affect change really through anything except coincidence. I guess it's that angel-ghost-pigeon conundrum. Sigh.